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Future Money

F|M blends technology, finance, and culture. It explores how changing systems reshape the way we live, work, and participate in the world. Listen to founders, creatives, innovators, and thought leaders about their experiences, work, and vision for the future of their industries.

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Off the Ledger

A casual vodcast showcasing technology, ideas, and people behind Open Payments. The series unpacks how interconnected financial infrastructure works and what makes it possible. From technical deep dives and project walkthroughs to community themes and Interledger team stories.

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Interledger Salon

Listen to researchers, founders, technologists, and community leaders exploring ideas, tensions, and lived realities shaped by financial systems today. Each session looks beyond access alone to ask deeper questions about trust, participation, power, and what a fair financial future could look like.

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  • Off the Ledger

    Off the ledger - S2E4 Rafiki & Cards

    In this episode, Ioana Chiorean sits down with an extended set of guests: Sabine Schaller, Alex Lakatos, Timea Nagy, Max Kurapov, and Tadej Golobic. They will share more news from the Rafiki world, the progress on the cards project, and some sparkles from the work week fun!

    Off the ledger - S2E4 Rafiki & Cards
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    Podcast - s02e05 - Future Money Live from the WACIF Cultivate Summit 2026, Washington, DC.

    Recorded live at the WACIF Cultivate Summit 2026 in Washington, DC, this episode explores how founders and creators can access funding, grow their businesses, and drive innovation.

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    Podcast - s02e04 - Arts as Civic Infrastructure: Kristina Newman-Scott on Cultivating Equitable Communities

    Kokayi talks with Kristina Newman-Scott, the Knight Foundation's Vice President of Arts, about fostering equitable communities through artistic expression.

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    Podcast - s02e03 - From Casual Hang to Cultural Movement and Why Inclusion Matters

    Kokayi interviews Modi Oyewole, founder of Swang. An organization that was created out of what was a casual driving range hang and has since developed into a cultural movement in Los Angeles.

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    Podcast - s02e02 - Voices from the Interledger Summit 2025

    Kokayi traveled to Mexico City for the Interledger Summit. Here, he had the opportunity to catch up with some of our panelists, workshop conveners, and summit participants to talk about what financial inclusion means globally.

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    Podcast - s02e01 - From big tech to community education: Reimagining how money moves

    Podcast - s02e01 - From big tech to community education: Reimagining how money moves

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    Podcast - s01e20 Passing on the torch

    Meet Kokayi Issa, longtime community member, as he steps in as the new host of The Future Money Podcast. Kokayi shares his journey into digital financial inclusion and his vision for sparking fresh conversations about the future of finance.

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    Podcast - s01e19 In Conversation with ILF Grantee and Community Member Adam Waring

    Ayesha Ware and Chris Lawrence speak with ILF grantee and community member Adam Waring about the recent shutdown of gFam, his thoughts on Web Monetization, and what he's planning next.

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    Podcast - s01e18 Indigenomics and the Digital Future

    Carol Ann Hilton discusses Indigenous economic empowerment, blending traditional knowledge with modern tech, and dismantling systemic barriers to participation in this powerful conversation on The Future Money Podcast.

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    Podcast - s01e17 Empowerment through design

    Larissa Lamporsad and Kayee Au discuss how trust, simplicity, and dignity shape financial service design, highlighting the importance of cultural relevance and ethical solutions in driving meaningful change in digital finance.

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    Podcast - s01e16 From Engineering to Digital Financial Inclusion

    In this episode, Santosh shares his firsthand experience of how India's Unified Payments Interface (UPI) revolutionized the financial landscape, bringing millions into the banking system and enabling seamless digital transactions.

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    Podcast - s01e15 Looking back, Moving forward

    Join us in this special episode as we revisit the moments that sparked meaningful discussions and highlighted remarkable progress in narrowing the financial gap.

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    Podcast - s01e14 Reimagine global payments

    Join Sabine Schaller's conversation with Interledger Protocol co-founders Stefan Thomas and Evan Schwartz as they discuss ILP's design principles, their vision for a universal payment network, and ideas around automated transactions, Dassi, and ILDCP.

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    Podcast - s01e13 Architecture of Trust

    Joran Greef, CEO of Tiger Beetle, takes us through the development of Tiger Beetle as a cutting-edge financial transactions database, highlighting its speed, reliability, and use of open-source technology.

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    Podcast - s01e12 Redefining financial inclusion with Chimoney

    Sit down with technologist and entrepreneur Uchi Uchibeke as he shares his inspiring journey from Nigeria to Canada and his work with Chimoney, a platform advancing financial inclusion and economic empowerment.

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    Podcast - s01e11 Interledger on Campus

    Let's dive into the Interledger Foundation's integration of open payments into academic curriculums, featuring insights from Dr. Allan Davids (UCT), Dr. Andrew Mangle (Bowie State University), and Interledger Foundation CEO Briana Marbury.

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    Podcast - s01e10 Why Digital Financial Inclusion Matters

    Tune in for a special episode of the FM Podcast, featuring the Interledger Salon! The Salon is a quarterly panel that facilitates insightful discussions with leaders in digital financial inclusion.

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    Podcast - s01e09 Waterworks of Money

    Join us as we deep dive into the 'Waterworks of Money', exploring complex topics such as monetary systems, financial structures, and the challenges of literacy and accessibility.

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    Podcast - s01e08 Re/Simulate

    Explore how computational simulations of economic models can expose the gaps, pitfalls, and strengths of digital financial systems as strategies become tangible and apparent.

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    Podcast - s01e07 Taking the train to Digital Financial Inclusion

    Discover how students at Bowie State University are shaping the future of Digital Financial Inclusion through open-source technology in partnership with the Interledger Foundation.

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    Podcast - s01e06 Liminal Matter

    Explore the evolution of money from tangible matter into an increasingly immaterial entity as financial systems become more complex.

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    Podcast - s01e05 Living Archives of Afrofuturist Village Banking

    Learn how women in Zambia and South Africa created financial practices to support resilience and respond to their communities' needs.

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    Podcast - s01e04 Bringing Down A Mountain

    Discover a docufiction set in the Odia Language, which uses Open Source imagery to reimagine how technology is built, implemented, and affects financial inclusion.

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    Podcast - s01e04 Beyond Currency

    Together, host Xiaoji Song and guests Sarah Habib and Anuja Ghosalkar unpack how our differing understandings of money and financial systems shape our access to and engagement with them.

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    Podcast - s01e03 Practising financial inclusion in the Global South

    Join Smriti Parsheera as she discusses financial inclusion with James Ogada (Busara Center) and Dr. Susan Thomas (XKDR Forum), exploring how collaboration and tailored solutions enhance economic resilience in the Global South.

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    Podcast - s01e03 Parallel Society

    Learn more about a game which sheds light on financial traumas, such as behavior patterns and psychological impacts as results of financial exclusions.

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    Podcast - s01e02 Loose (Chains) Change

    Reimagine the financial structure by which a litter of lottery tickets are used to question the theologies of money, wealth, gain, loss, and hope.

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    Podcast - s01e01 an Inti/vation

    Delve into issues of privacy, surveillance, fair wages, exploitative commerce, and the complexities of navigating financial exchange across borders.

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